audaces fortuna juvat ([info]caliah) wrote in [info]bad_rpers_suck,
2005-08-23 22:41:00
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Ah, bad memories.

I was reading through my old rp logs on one of my favourite (now-defunct) MUSHes when I came upon one I logged just because a new player was being anal and really, really annoying. How annoying you ask?

Said player, after posing his turn, then asks, "Okay, whose turn is it?"

I reply, "Anyone's, we don't conform to a strict pose order in this MUSH unless it's a big scene."

Gary Stu then proceeds to get on his high horse and lecture me on the political correctness of establishing a pose order and waiting for the next person's turn. Because. Free-for-all posing. Is. Just. Not. Done.

I tell him, as politely as I can manage, "We've done that on this MUSH for as long as I can remember. And it's the case on most MUSHes I play, for the sake of getting the scene to flow naturally."

He then picks a fight with me over OOC and discourages passing players from joining the scene. "If I were you I'd just leave now." And threatens to bring my 'harassment' to the notice of the admins.

WTF.

I was pretty amused by all this afterwards, but it sure wasn't very amusing at the time. To Mr. Know-it-all Neophyte RPer, wherever you are, I hope that stick jammed up your ass bleeds you to death.

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[info]cat_mcdougall

August 23 2005, 13:24:29 UTC 6 years ago

To Mr. Know-it-all Neophyte RPer, wherever you are, I hope that stick jammed up your ass bleeds you to death.

I <3 you for that. I shall now go be amused and get back to work.

[info]mostlyjoe

August 23 2005, 13:38:10 UTC 6 years ago

As a point of order I would have called the Admins down on him right then an there. Btw: What Mush? (I'm looking around.)

[info]caliah

August 23 2005, 13:40:49 UTC 6 years ago

Matrix MUSH. Unfortunately the game's been down for a while now, and will never likely be revived.

[info]thebigbolich

August 23 2005, 21:51:14 UTC 6 years ago

Who on Matrix was it? o.o

[info]caliah

August 27 2005, 18:01:14 UTC 6 years ago

Halogen actually. Not the old Halo.

[info]cpip

August 23 2005, 13:41:16 UTC 6 years ago

Hmmm. I tend to prefer pose order myself; I know at least one player who feels it's necessary due to RL constraints: she has to step away from the keyboard at regular intervals due to her knees, so in a free-for-all environment she can get up and come back having missed half a conversation that went on without her.

On the other hand, hassling folks trying to enter the scene? Not cool.

[info]caliah

August 23 2005, 13:42:45 UTC 6 years ago

He could have done what some of my friends do - which is request that a pose order be set, "because that's what I'm used to etc. etc." rather than bullying the rest of the people in the scene to adhere to his whims. I sure would have acceded to it if he'd worded it politely.

[info]insaint

August 23 2005, 13:43:44 UTC 6 years ago

Hah! Personally, I'm a fan of a pose order (simply for the sake of the players' sanity and because I hate re-writing my almost-finished pose when another player pops up with something that makes half of it look stupid), but I certainly wouldn't go around preaching that as if it were the gospel. :)

For big scenes the games I play on usually use the '3-pose rule', which basically means that there is no strict linear pose order (because it slows things down), but you can pose again if at least three other people went after your last pose. That allows people to step away to grab a drink or whatever once in a while without holding up the entire affair.

[info]cpip

August 23 2005, 13:51:01 UTC 6 years ago

Iconlove.

[info]caliah

August 23 2005, 13:52:30 UTC 6 years ago

Hm...I haven't seen that in play yet. I might give it a shot on the next MUSH I try. That's a pretty good idea.

[info]insaint

August 23 2005, 13:56:15 UTC 6 years ago

We found that it keeps things going at a reasonable pace without being too overwhelming. And folks don't lose interest because they have to wait for 10 others to post before they can go again. :)

We usually use it in battle scenes, since big social gatherings tend to break apart into smaller groups anyway and global pose order isn't an issue.

[info]theangstmonkey

August 23 2005, 14:45:10 UTC 6 years ago

Dude. Not taking turns is one of my pet peeves too, but that doesn't mean they have to take it that far. I mean it's depends on how the game is set up, ne? As long as the playing is good and it's fun that's all that really matters.

[info]caliah

August 23 2005, 15:31:39 UTC 6 years ago

I usually also have some respect for how the players on a MUSH have established their rp, meaning I don't force my POVs on them if they already have a style they're comfortable with. I mean, sure, I will ask them to accomodate any preferences I have that won't inconvenience them terribly, but out of respect I would try to adapt rather than force them to adapt to me.

[info]kinfae

August 23 2005, 16:50:41 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, despise not using pose order, but high handedness still sucks.

[info]minion

August 23 2005, 17:27:19 UTC 6 years ago

I hate pose order. Hatey hate hate hate HATE. Ahem. I don't like it much. That said, if I -have- to use it people better not idle for thirty minutes and leave everyone hanging. -That- is why I hate it so much. The only time I don't have issues with it is in combat scenes because then it makes sense.

Social scenes? Bah. If I'm in a scene with 2-4 other players a pose order usually develops on its own, but it's not something we set. And it's not something anyone I currently plays with will bitch about if you go out of order. I prefer the more realistic type of social scenes where you're talking like you talk, without keeping track in your head if Bob or George or Alice have commented yet.

But pose order is one of the eternal debates. People love it or hate it and are rarely indifferent to it. I'd rather poke myself in the eye than have to use it in every scene.

[info]caliah

August 23 2005, 17:48:01 UTC 6 years ago

Social scenes? Bah. If I'm in a scene with 2-4 other players a pose order usually develops on its own, but it's not something we set. And it's not something anyone I currently plays with will bitch about if you go out of order. I prefer the more realistic type of social scenes where you're talking like you talk, without keeping track in your head if Bob or George or Alice have commented yet.

This more natural feel to a scene is what I prefer in any rp that requires a lot of interaction. Of course most rpers I play with are considerate enough to adopt whatever the rest are most comfortable with given the scene. I personally don't mind having to use either style, just that I prefer one over the other, and keeping a rigid order in a casual scene with five people or less just makes me lose my patience.

[info]youngwilliam

August 24 2005, 10:19:26 UTC 6 years ago

The only time I really relish pose-order is, well.. picture this:

You're in a restaurant, order something, the waiter brings it over, sets it down in front of you, then takes a step back.
Then they adjust the plate a few degrees one way.
Then they shift it slightly towards you.
Then they fluff up the garnish.
Then they angle the main course slightly.
Then they adjust the plate a few degrees the other way.
Then they add a bit of water to your glass.
Then they add some ice cubes.
Then they add some more water.
Then they fluff your garnish the other way.
Then th-

STOP IT!! IT WAS FINE THE FIRST TIME!!

*deep breath* But yep. Folks who do that. That's about the only time I'll chime in with "OOC Mind if I set up a pose order here?", just to get them to shut the heck up.

[info]caliah

August 27 2005, 18:00:18 UTC 6 years ago

Unfortunately I'm playing a game these days in which people seem to love chopping up their poses into itty-bitty pieces.

Instead of taking a single post consisting of three lines, they'll take three one-liners to say the exact same thing.
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